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By: The Federal Observer » Stuter: The Degradation of Hallowed Halls

The Federal Observer » Stuter: The Degradation of Hallowed Halls — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:09:28 +0000

[...] has surfaced that AKA’s birth name, if accurate, does not exist in the Hawaii birth index, in 1961, before or [...]

By: 2nd, J.D. Hayworth, John McCain, Eligibility – Fringe Conspiracy, HI Birth Index, Obama Chicago

Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:28:28 +0000

[...] HI DOH Releases Redacted Print-Outs of Hawaiian Birth Index [...]

By: AttilasDaughter

AttilasDaughter — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:24:36 +0000

On the Leo Donofrio blog I remember were two occasions that the name “Dunham” was misspelled in a response.
By accident?
I thought it was a way for them to give false information, but not directly lie.

By: SapphireSunday

SapphireSunday — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:53:37 +0000

From the Dept. of Health website:
“The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.”

Those other Dunhams may have been (probably were) previously registered in Hawaii, probably born in a hospital and received a regular birth certificate.

Unless I misunderstand the situation, it doesn’t necessarily mean that the Dept. of Health responded incorrectly. Unless those Dunhams were not registered at birth, they wouldn’t be on the Hawaiian Birth Index. Instead of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, they would have a regular Certificate of Live Birth.

Someone should ask for the same names from the regular birth index. They may be playing games with the names given to the indices. The register for those who received a “standard birth certificate” at birth probably has another name.

You should also request the same names from the Hawaiian Birth Index between 1960 and 1972.

Then ask: When a person amends a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth and receives in return a Late (standard) Birth Certificate upon surrender of the COHB, does the person’s name disappear from the Hawaiian Birth Index? Does the person’s name then appear on the regular “standard” birth index, as if that’s how it would have appeared at the time of his birth?

By: tminu

tminu — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:14:24 +0000

meaning could one apply for these non-conforming bc’s after 1971? I take it to mean these were for home-births or foreign-borns (based on testimony that parents lived in Hawaii for 1 year prior to purported birth)…

What the lists do, is exclude Obama from having a non-conforming bc for all probable years of his birth, i.e. he can’t say he had a home-birth or pre-statehood birth as any excuse for not having a hospital bc, which he does not have.

Between Fukino breaking laws, Okubo’s obfuscations/lies, Lingle’s noncompliance, Attorney General’s refusal to corroborate, Kapiolani’s reports that he was not born there…I see nothing remaining except a total fabrication.

By: Father Time

Father Time — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:08:53 +0000

My question: is this the same list that would have been made public to the news papers in 1961 use by these papers to post Obama’s birth announcement?

If not the request for that list given to the news papers should still be public from 1961 because once public always public.

By: tminu

tminu — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:12:10 +0000

Can you get these for after 1971?

By: TexomaEd

TexomaEd — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:32:28 +0000

Good point about that resolution trying to retroactively make McCain a natural born citizen — you are either a natural born citizen at birth or not!

Natural born citizenship is attained by the laws of nature and not of man. If you are born in the US to US citizen parents, then no human law is needed to say you are a US citizen. Your citizenship is self-evident to everyone — you are obviously and naturally a citizen — you are a natural born citizen. Furthermore, no foreign country can lay any claim to your citizenship and allegiance at birth.

By: tminu

tminu — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:42:23 +0000

…meaning someone took advantage of the Hawaii laws allowing foreign-borns to call themselves Hawaiian born after 1971…this would align with when he ostensibly started pricey Punahau.

By: tminu

tminu — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 19:37:17 +0000

Since the Hawaii Birth index does not show him, does this mean he was not born in Hawaii, unless of course, he was born in Hawaii, but someone filed for a late or amended Certification of Live Birth some time after 1971?