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	<title>Comments on: Orly Taitz Petitions District of Columbia Court</title>
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		<title>By: natural born citizen party</title>
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		<dc:creator>natural born citizen party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>strunk files motion to intervene in USDC-DC 10-151 Taitz v Obama 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/26214034/NOTICE-OF-MOTION-with-Strunk-w-Affidavit-and-Exs-in-Support-of-Intervention-in-Taitz-v-Obama-DCD-10-Cv-00151-RCL-013010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strunk files motion to intervene in USDC-DC 10-151 Taitz v Obama </p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/26214034/NOTICE-OF-MOTION-with-Strunk-w-Affidavit-and-Exs-in-Support-of-Intervention-in-Taitz-v-Obama-DCD-10-Cv-00151-RCL-013010" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/26214034/NOTICE-OF-MOTION-with-Strunk-w-Affidavit-and-Exs-in-Support-of-Intervention-in-Taitz-v-Obama-DCD-10-Cv-00151-RCL-013010</a></p>
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		<title>By: natural born citizen party</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the pre-civil war / pre 14th amendment constitutional scheme made the slaves and children of slaves really fractional (not equal) natural born citizens and left moot the issue of a slave being eligible to be POTUS/CINC.   The civil war and the 14th Amendment answered the defict for slaves and the children of slaves.  The war and the 14th amendment were not faught and legislated for anchor-babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pre-civil war / pre 14th amendment constitutional scheme made the slaves and children of slaves really fractional (not equal) natural born citizens and left moot the issue of a slave being eligible to be POTUS/CINC.   The civil war and the 14th Amendment answered the defict for slaves and the children of slaves.  The war and the 14th amendment were not faught and legislated for anchor-babies.</p>
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		<title>By: natural born citizen party</title>
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		<dc:creator>natural born citizen party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps no more anchor babies will be the outcome of this entire affair, slaves were NOT anchor babies and 14th Amendment allowed them to natural born citizens -- real US citizens deprived of their equal constitutional protection by factional citizenship scheme.  

Again, the former slaves and their children were in fact natural born citizens empowered to be POTUS/CINC, non-slave anchor babies were not 14th amendment material. 

finally, if no anchor babies being automatic citizens, should/would the prior anchor baby &quot;citizens&quot; be grand-fathered US citizens or have their US citizenship revoked or give an new different temporary status.

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&lt;strong&gt;Mr. Charlton replies:&lt;/strong&gt; Though the institution of hereditary slavery is contrary to the natural law, nevertheless citizenship in fact is regulated by positive human law; so one cannot say that prior to the 14th amendment slaves and their children were natural born citizens; but rather that according to the natural law they deserved to be recognized as such.  The 14th amendment sanatized a legal tradition which presupposed the injustice of race slavery; a form of slavery unknow in Roman Law and condemned by the Roman Pontiff in the latter half of the 16th century, but which spread under the economic enticements of slave labor and the Dutch slave trade, which was enormously lucrative.  Succeeding decades of such practice created in common law a notion of slave holding which went from being illicit, to de facto, to a customary right, to being enacted into many of the early laws of each colony.

The 14th Amendment, therefore, is squarely in the tradition of Constitutional principles, since our nation was founded in such a manner that common law of England was corrected by the institution of natural law principles which would take precedent to the errant parts of common law. And race slavery&#039;s recognition in early colonial and US law was based on such errant common law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps no more anchor babies will be the outcome of this entire affair, slaves were NOT anchor babies and 14th Amendment allowed them to natural born citizens &#8212; real US citizens deprived of their equal constitutional protection by factional citizenship scheme.  </p>
<p>Again, the former slaves and their children were in fact natural born citizens empowered to be POTUS/CINC, non-slave anchor babies were not 14th amendment material. </p>
<p>finally, if no anchor babies being automatic citizens, should/would the prior anchor baby &#8220;citizens&#8221; be grand-fathered US citizens or have their US citizenship revoked or give an new different temporary status.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>Mr. Charlton replies:</strong> Though the institution of hereditary slavery is contrary to the natural law, nevertheless citizenship in fact is regulated by positive human law; so one cannot say that prior to the 14th amendment slaves and their children were natural born citizens; but rather that according to the natural law they deserved to be recognized as such.  The 14th amendment sanatized a legal tradition which presupposed the injustice of race slavery; a form of slavery unknow in Roman Law and condemned by the Roman Pontiff in the latter half of the 16th century, but which spread under the economic enticements of slave labor and the Dutch slave trade, which was enormously lucrative.  Succeeding decades of such practice created in common law a notion of slave holding which went from being illicit, to de facto, to a customary right, to being enacted into many of the early laws of each colony.</p>
<p>The 14th Amendment, therefore, is squarely in the tradition of Constitutional principles, since our nation was founded in such a manner that common law of England was corrected by the institution of natural law principles which would take precedent to the errant parts of common law. And race slavery&#8217;s recognition in early colonial and US law was based on such errant common law.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordwaryor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 14th Amendment was written to allow the slaves born on American soil to become U.S. citizens (following the civil war). 
The words of this Amendment are wrongly assumed to confer natural born citizenship.   But the Author of the 14th Amendment (Senator John A Bingham) clearly stated otherwise.   In an address to Congress that 

&quot; any human being born on U.S. soil to parents owing no allegiance to any foreign power is, in the language of the Consitution itself, a natural born citizen... &quot;   

Clearly, the 14th Amendment only confers citizenship, but NOT natural born citizenship.   According to the 14th Amendment (and its author) ....  the allegiance of the parents was a primary requisite to natural born citizenship... along with place of birth and in addition to it. 

Thus a native born person would be a citizen, but a native born person born to two citizens would then be a natural born citizen.....   and ONLY this class of citizens is eligible to be President (meeting age and residency requirements also). 

Clearly then, by his own admission,  Barack Obama does NOT meet one of the primary requirements to be a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; of the USA.    

And thus, he is CLEARLY NOT qualified to seek and hold the office of President.   Pity that no court sees and understands this and will take up the issue. 

Which, means the We the People must not give up the quest for proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 14th Amendment was written to allow the slaves born on American soil to become U.S. citizens (following the civil war).<br />
The words of this Amendment are wrongly assumed to confer natural born citizenship.   But the Author of the 14th Amendment (Senator John A Bingham) clearly stated otherwise.   In an address to Congress that </p>
<p>&#8221; any human being born on U.S. soil to parents owing no allegiance to any foreign power is, in the language of the Consitution itself, a natural born citizen&#8230; &#8221;   </p>
<p>Clearly, the 14th Amendment only confers citizenship, but NOT natural born citizenship.   According to the 14th Amendment (and its author) &#8230;.  the allegiance of the parents was a primary requisite to natural born citizenship&#8230; along with place of birth and in addition to it. </p>
<p>Thus a native born person would be a citizen, but a native born person born to two citizens would then be a natural born citizen&#8230;..   and ONLY this class of citizens is eligible to be President (meeting age and residency requirements also). </p>
<p>Clearly then, by his own admission,  Barack Obama does NOT meet one of the primary requirements to be a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; of the USA.    </p>
<p>And thus, he is CLEARLY NOT qualified to seek and hold the office of President.   Pity that no court sees and understands this and will take up the issue. </p>
<p>Which, means the We the People must not give up the quest for proof.</p>
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		<title>By: TexomaEd</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!  I would add a couple of points.
1. Those who believe that being born on US soil is all that matters need to look up the definition of &quot;native-born&quot;.  They will find that it matches their incorrect definition of “natural born citizen”, which they believe is simply being born on US soil, and not the correct definition which is born on US soil and of the full blood (two citizen parents) of the nation.
2. It was not enough that presidents be natural born citizens -- they also had to be 35 and have lived in the US the last 14 years.  &lt;strong&gt;Why this 14-year residency requirement?  Our Founding Fathers understood that foreign influence came not only from birthplace and birthparents, but also from the exposure from having lived in a foreign country.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!  I would add a couple of points.<br />
1. Those who believe that being born on US soil is all that matters need to look up the definition of &#8220;native-born&#8221;.  They will find that it matches their incorrect definition of “natural born citizen”, which they believe is simply being born on US soil, and not the correct definition which is born on US soil and of the full blood (two citizen parents) of the nation.<br />
2. It was not enough that presidents be natural born citizens &#8212; they also had to be 35 and have lived in the US the last 14 years.  <strong>Why this 14-year residency requirement?  Our Founding Fathers understood that foreign influence came not only from birthplace and birthparents, but also from the exposure from having lived in a foreign country.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: natural born citizen party</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect ACORN also mis-used SSN#s involvin HUD affordable housing programs and I suspect also the US Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac .  

But first I suggest Orly in her USDC-DC 10-151 case &quot;Taitz v Obama&quot; keep an eye on the related case (USDC-NYED 09-4888 &quot;ACORN v US&quot;) ACORN suing US (us) to injoin/ bar the federal (and state/local) goverment from banning further ACORN funding.  

ACORN hired the former Mass AG to &quot;investigate&quot; itself and provide its own umpire -- see:

 http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/08/acorn-whitewash-acorn-report-is-dishonest-legal-hair-splitting/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect ACORN also mis-used SSN#s involvin HUD affordable housing programs and I suspect also the US Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac .  </p>
<p>But first I suggest Orly in her USDC-DC 10-151 case &#8220;Taitz v Obama&#8221; keep an eye on the related case (USDC-NYED 09-4888 &#8220;ACORN v US&#8221;) ACORN suing US (us) to injoin/ bar the federal (and state/local) goverment from banning further ACORN funding.  </p>
<p>ACORN hired the former Mass AG to &#8220;investigate&#8221; itself and provide its own umpire &#8212; see:</p>
<p> <a href="http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/08/acorn-whitewash-acorn-report-is-dishonest-legal-hair-splitting/" rel="nofollow">http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/08/acorn-whitewash-acorn-report-is-dishonest-legal-hair-splitting/</a></p>
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		<title>By: vharlow</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fear is that Judge Lamberth will say Orly has no standing.</description>
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		<title>By: old1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simple;
1. His father was a Kenyan (no question about this)
2. In 1961 Kenya was under British rule (this is a simple fact)
3. In 1961 all male British Subjects came under the British Nationality Act of 1948 (this states that all children born to British Subjects while overseas will be born British Subjects at birth. This is a British law dealing with British Subjects and can not be overridden by American law, being that his father was never an American Citizen &amp; never applied for American Citizenship, nor wanted to be nationalized)
4. Article 2. Section 1. paragraph 5. of our Great Constitution has never been amended or changed in anyway and still requires the status of Natural Born American Citizen be required of any American President. (Natural born = born of BLOOD &amp; SOIL - That is the BLOOD of both parents being American Citizens at the time of your birth and that birth on American SOIL. We know for a FACT that his father was NOT an American Citizen at the time of Barack Hussein Obams Jr.s birth thus no American Citizen BLOOD on his father&#039;s side and we have never been provided with any prof that he was born on American SOIL, the Hawaiian COLB does not substantiate this fact. Alone the simple fact his father was never an American Citizen negates BHO&#039;s ability to ever be considered a Natural Born American Citizen)
This is all the information any reasonable American needs to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the man sleeping  in our White House is a Foreign Usurper and all those that were behind putting him there are Traitors, Un American, and are participating is a Communist coup to take over our Great Country by deceit and trickery.
Wake Up America - The TRUTH is right in front of your eyes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s simple;<br />
1. His father was a Kenyan (no question about this)<br />
2. In 1961 Kenya was under British rule (this is a simple fact)<br />
3. In 1961 all male British Subjects came under the British Nationality Act of 1948 (this states that all children born to British Subjects while overseas will be born British Subjects at birth. This is a British law dealing with British Subjects and can not be overridden by American law, being that his father was never an American Citizen &amp; never applied for American Citizenship, nor wanted to be nationalized)<br />
4. Article 2. Section 1. paragraph 5. of our Great Constitution has never been amended or changed in anyway and still requires the status of Natural Born American Citizen be required of any American President. (Natural born = born of BLOOD &amp; SOIL &#8211; That is the BLOOD of both parents being American Citizens at the time of your birth and that birth on American SOIL. We know for a FACT that his father was NOT an American Citizen at the time of Barack Hussein Obams Jr.s birth thus no American Citizen BLOOD on his father&#8217;s side and we have never been provided with any prof that he was born on American SOIL, the Hawaiian COLB does not substantiate this fact. Alone the simple fact his father was never an American Citizen negates BHO&#8217;s ability to ever be considered a Natural Born American Citizen)<br />
This is all the information any reasonable American needs to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the man sleeping  in our White House is a Foreign Usurper and all those that were behind putting him there are Traitors, Un American, and are participating is a Communist coup to take over our Great Country by deceit and trickery.<br />
Wake Up America &#8211; The TRUTH is right in front of your eyes!</p>
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		<title>By: delquattro</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did you delete my question?  I&#039;m a birther, but the years in the piece don&#039;t make sense.  The ssn was issued in 1976-1979, to a person born in 1890?  I just want you to get the numbers straight so that ObaMaoBots don&#039;t go off on a tangent.

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&lt;strong&gt;Mr. Charlton replies:&lt;/strong&gt; Delquattro you ask a question that a lot of Obots ask, because Obots ask — pardon my language — stupid questions to misdirect patriots.

Not everyone gets a SSN at birth; infact nearly nobody used to.  I got mine when I turned 18.  When the SS Act was introduced, obviously (I think in the 40&#039;s) those born in the 1890&#039;s probably started to get one.  So use a little common sense, please...! 

So obviously if someone born in the 1890&#039;s got on in the 50&#039;s and died in the 60&#039;s in Hawaii, then someone (Madelyn Payne Dunham), working with county records, could steal that SSN and used it for her grandson. That&#039;s the implication in several filings, filed by Dr. Taitz at least.

The implication has this significance: SSNs are not reissued to other persons. Mobsters and KGB and criminals use SSNs of the dead.  To get a SSN you had to show a BC; if Obama was not born in the USA, perhaps that explains why he had to steal a SSN from a US Citizen, and has been using such all his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did you delete my question?  I&#8217;m a birther, but the years in the piece don&#8217;t make sense.  The ssn was issued in 1976-1979, to a person born in 1890?  I just want you to get the numbers straight so that ObaMaoBots don&#8217;t go off on a tangent.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong>Mr. Charlton replies:</strong> Delquattro you ask a question that a lot of Obots ask, because Obots ask — pardon my language — stupid questions to misdirect patriots.</p>
<p>Not everyone gets a SSN at birth; infact nearly nobody used to.  I got mine when I turned 18.  When the SS Act was introduced, obviously (I think in the 40&#8242;s) those born in the 1890&#8242;s probably started to get one.  So use a little common sense, please&#8230;! </p>
<p>So obviously if someone born in the 1890&#8242;s got on in the 50&#8242;s and died in the 60&#8242;s in Hawaii, then someone (Madelyn Payne Dunham), working with county records, could steal that SSN and used it for her grandson. That&#8217;s the implication in several filings, filed by Dr. Taitz at least.</p>
<p>The implication has this significance: SSNs are not reissued to other persons. Mobsters and KGB and criminals use SSNs of the dead.  To get a SSN you had to show a BC; if Obama was not born in the USA, perhaps that explains why he had to steal a SSN from a US Citizen, and has been using such all his life.</p>
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		<title>By: natural born citizen party</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps, but under slightly different if similar circumstance and participants</description>
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