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		<title>By: slcraig</title>
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		<dc:creator>slcraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not argue against any possibility you suggest I&#039;ve come up with a number myself.

Except that, &#039;legally&#039; it would be correct to say that the &#039;Big0&#039; is the &#039;little0&#039;s&#039; father, whether he was the &#039;actual&#039; biological father or not, by the mere &#039;volume&#039; of pubic pronouncements of that being the fact. 

Also, although his long form BC has not surfaced along with a marriage cert, there is a &#039;divorce decree&#039; floating around that would be sufficient in court to establish the legality of parentage, barring any other contradictory evidence being admitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not argue against any possibility you suggest I&#8217;ve come up with a number myself.</p>
<p>Except that, &#8216;legally&#8217; it would be correct to say that the &#8216;Big0&#8242; is the &#8216;little0&#8242;s&#8217; father, whether he was the &#8216;actual&#8217; biological father or not, by the mere &#8216;volume&#8217; of pubic pronouncements of that being the fact. </p>
<p>Also, although his long form BC has not surfaced along with a marriage cert, there is a &#8216;divorce decree&#8217; floating around that would be sufficient in court to establish the legality of parentage, barring any other contradictory evidence being admitted.</p>
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		<title>By: Krist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! It is sad that all these different approaches have to be found by Americans. The US Supreme Court utterly FAILED in their duty to uphold its US Constitution and order hearing where obama has to be the one to show just Cause as to why he is qualified. 
It is totally ridiculous that the Congress committed Treason against our Country. No matter from what angle this is viewed, obama from his own many admissions in his books, etc. could  never by any stretch be a &quot;natural citizen&quot; of the U.S. 
Of the 3 branches it is a given the Executive will not help. The Congress has abetted Obama. Now it looks like the US Supreme Court is not upholding the Constitution either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! It is sad that all these different approaches have to be found by Americans. The US Supreme Court utterly FAILED in their duty to uphold its US Constitution and order hearing where obama has to be the one to show just Cause as to why he is qualified.<br />
It is totally ridiculous that the Congress committed Treason against our Country. No matter from what angle this is viewed, obama from his own many admissions in his books, etc. could  never by any stretch be a &#8220;natural citizen&#8221; of the U.S.<br />
Of the 3 branches it is a given the Executive will not help. The Congress has abetted Obama. Now it looks like the US Supreme Court is not upholding the Constitution either.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the pic here is photo shopped and is take from a pic done Jan 14th, 2009 release in LA Times. Really now where did you get that, or what are you trying to pull. I do not believe he is a Natural Born Citizen but stuff like this disinformation hurts the cause so I red flag you. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/01/barack-obama-fo.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pic here is photo shopped and is take from a pic done Jan 14th, 2009 release in LA Times. Really now where did you get that, or what are you trying to pull. I do not believe he is a Natural Born Citizen but stuff like this disinformation hurts the cause so I red flag you. <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/01/barack-obama-fo.html" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/01/barack-obama-fo.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JeanWTPUSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeanWTPUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Hawaiian officials want to commemorate Barry&#039;s Hawaiian birthplace. I&#039;m sure they will use taxpayer dollars to do this, so that leaves them open to more FOIA requests.

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&lt;strong&gt;Mr. Charlton replies:&lt;/strong&gt; Where did you hear that, Jean? And why the insistence on creating the appearances of a real bc existing, and yet refusing to show it...??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Hawaiian officials want to commemorate Barry&#8217;s Hawaiian birthplace. I&#8217;m sure they will use taxpayer dollars to do this, so that leaves them open to more FOIA requests.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong>Mr. Charlton replies:</strong> Where did you hear that, Jean? And why the insistence on creating the appearances of a real bc existing, and yet refusing to show it&#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: Joss Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joss Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama still a Brit? No kidding! See the &lt;a href=&quot;http://littleimg.com/pfiles/715/BritishObama_original.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;official White House photo&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama still a Brit? No kidding! See the <a href="http://littleimg.com/pfiles/715/BritishObama_original.jpg" rel="nofollow">official White House photo</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Side of Life &#187; Eligibility Update: Obama British Subject; &#8220;Barry from D.C.;&#8221; Obamacare Opponents Birthers</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Right Side of Life &#187; Eligibility Update: Obama British Subject; &#8220;Barry from D.C.;&#8221; Obamacare Opponents Birthers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charlton at The Post &amp; Email posted a great analysis that explains how it&#8217;s quite possible that Mr. Obama continues to be a British subject. As [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Charlton at The Post &amp; Email posted a great analysis that explains how it&#8217;s quite possible that Mr. Obama continues to be a British subject. As [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tminu</title>
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		<dc:creator>tminu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and he was never natural born anyway, so that could not be reinstated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and he was never natural born anyway, so that could not be reinstated</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is Obama a Usurper?  or not? I believe he is! 

 If the Constitution mandates Article 2 NBC, then the Constitution says he isn&#039;t the President.

So who is?

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&lt;strong&gt;Mr. Charlton:&lt;/strong&gt; When no candidate is eligible, the Congress must select a president pro tem, until it provides otherwise; there is a strong argument that McCain was eligible, since he was born of a father in military service; yet it was not war time, so that is debatable.  Anyhow, Congress must make the selection, and has not, therefore technically, there is no president and all the Congressional bills &quot;signed into law&quot; after Jan 19th of 2009 are null and void.

As for Obama not being a natural born citizen; even if his parents and place of birth are as he claims, he is not: its not a matter of I believe or I do not believe; its a fact; and those who &quot;don&#039;t believe&quot; are in denial or nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is Obama a Usurper?  or not? I believe he is! </p>
<p> If the Constitution mandates Article 2 NBC, then the Constitution says he isn&#8217;t the President.</p>
<p>So who is?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong>Mr. Charlton:</strong> When no candidate is eligible, the Congress must select a president pro tem, until it provides otherwise; there is a strong argument that McCain was eligible, since he was born of a father in military service; yet it was not war time, so that is debatable.  Anyhow, Congress must make the selection, and has not, therefore technically, there is no president and all the Congressional bills &#8220;signed into law&#8221; after Jan 19th of 2009 are null and void.</p>
<p>As for Obama not being a natural born citizen; even if his parents and place of birth are as he claims, he is not: its not a matter of I believe or I do not believe; its a fact; and those who &#8220;don&#8217;t believe&#8221; are in denial or nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: RobL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He most likely would not have lost his US Citizenship, if indeed he did have it at  birth, by being adopted by Lolo Soetoro.    That is true.  However, if  he had dual American/Indonesian Citizenship, as a result of the adoption, and  did return to Indonesia as an adult to reaffirm his Indonesian passport, as is suspected, then he would have been renouncing American Citizenship at that point.   It is believed he may have done this as his travels to Pakistan on an American passport may or may not have been possible at that point, that is also unclear.    If this did happen, and he has not naturalized subsequently, he is still an Indonesian, and is an illegal alien here in the US.

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&lt;strong&gt;Mr. Charlton replies:&lt;/strong&gt; Certainly if he renounced his U.S. citizenship (there is no such thing in law as &quot;American citizenship&quot;) before an Indonesian official it would impact his political career, but I believe that in U.S. law that itself does not result in a loss of U.S. citizenship, since the latter requires that such a renunciation be made before a U.S. official.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He most likely would not have lost his US Citizenship, if indeed he did have it at  birth, by being adopted by Lolo Soetoro.    That is true.  However, if  he had dual American/Indonesian Citizenship, as a result of the adoption, and  did return to Indonesia as an adult to reaffirm his Indonesian passport, as is suspected, then he would have been renouncing American Citizenship at that point.   It is believed he may have done this as his travels to Pakistan on an American passport may or may not have been possible at that point, that is also unclear.    If this did happen, and he has not naturalized subsequently, he is still an Indonesian, and is an illegal alien here in the US.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong>Mr. Charlton replies:</strong> Certainly if he renounced his U.S. citizenship (there is no such thing in law as &#8220;American citizenship&#8221;) before an Indonesian official it would impact his political career, but I believe that in U.S. law that itself does not result in a loss of U.S. citizenship, since the latter requires that such a renunciation be made before a U.S. official.</p>
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		<title>By: thinkwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>thinkwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many have already stated, a minor child US citizen who has been conferred foreign citizenship via adoption can only lose their US citizenship upon reaching the age of majority (18) and then only by renouncing their US citizenship through an official volitional act as an autonomous adult.

Assuming Obama was indeed legally adopted by Soetoro AND he never formally reasserted his US citizenship during his 18th or any other year (i.e., no legal paperwork of such exists) does anyone know if the act of renewing his Indonesian passport after the age of 18 (as some have claimed) would constitute an official renunciation of his US citizenship?  Also, would presenting himself at Occidental College as an Indonesian citizen (for admission and/or grant purposes) legally count as renunciation (or if not, be considered a disqualifyingly criminal act of fraud)?

Leo Donofrio completely dismissed these sorts of questions as too speculative to even consider, yet all or part of this scenario is at least reasonably possible even if not most likely.  Has anyone ever seen these sorts of questions seriously addressed?  Does any precedent exist?

Obama&#039;s life story is more mixed up than a fresh load of wash just after the spin cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many have already stated, a minor child US citizen who has been conferred foreign citizenship via adoption can only lose their US citizenship upon reaching the age of majority (18) and then only by renouncing their US citizenship through an official volitional act as an autonomous adult.</p>
<p>Assuming Obama was indeed legally adopted by Soetoro AND he never formally reasserted his US citizenship during his 18th or any other year (i.e., no legal paperwork of such exists) does anyone know if the act of renewing his Indonesian passport after the age of 18 (as some have claimed) would constitute an official renunciation of his US citizenship?  Also, would presenting himself at Occidental College as an Indonesian citizen (for admission and/or grant purposes) legally count as renunciation (or if not, be considered a disqualifyingly criminal act of fraud)?</p>
<p>Leo Donofrio completely dismissed these sorts of questions as too speculative to even consider, yet all or part of this scenario is at least reasonably possible even if not most likely.  Has anyone ever seen these sorts of questions seriously addressed?  Does any precedent exist?</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s life story is more mixed up than a fresh load of wash just after the spin cycle.</p>
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