Comments on: HI Department of Health refuses OIP’s request http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/ News Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:17:44 +0000 hourly 1 By: His name is “Steve Dunham”! | The Post & Email | The Ruthless Truth blog http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4799 His name is “Steve Dunham”! | The Post & Email | The Ruthless Truth blog Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:47:10 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4799 [...] withholding funding; a possible threat, which is seemingly indicated by Attorney Joesting, in her letter to Okubo regarding the non-answer to my own UIPA request made at the end of [...] [...] withholding funding; a possible threat, which is seemingly indicated by Attorney Joesting, in her letter to Okubo regarding the non-answer to my own UIPA request made at the end of [...]

]]> By: ksdb http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4156 ksdb Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:24:53 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4156 Epi, on that 1982 law, I don't think that the law made it possible for the registration of foreign births. The state already provided the opportunity for foreign births, especially through adoption. The only thing the 1982 law did was establish a residency requirement that didn't exist prior to that. If it created a totally new category of birth registrations, then you expect to see more rules attached than residency. Epi, on that 1982 law, I don’t think that the law made it possible for the registration of foreign births. The state already provided the opportunity for foreign births, especially through adoption. The only thing the 1982 law did was establish a residency requirement that didn’t exist prior to that. If it created a totally new category of birth registrations, then you expect to see more rules attached than residency.

]]> By: ksdb http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4137 ksdb Sat, 26 Dec 2009 06:34:13 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4137 I know they've responded to the index data requests by asking for a name (which defeats the purpose), but have not seen a response that cited an inability to find the index data or a policy that prevents them from obtaining it from other search criteria. The law on index data is designed to make basic information available to the public without releasing hard copies of vital records. That certificate number is part of the same database used to generate COLBs, so there's no physical reason they can't provide the data associated with the number. If it's Obama's legitimate certificate number, this would be an easy, legal way for them to confirm Obama's birth records as legitimate. Refusing indicates the certificate number probably belongs to someone other than Obama. I know they’ve responded to the index data requests by asking for a name (which defeats the purpose), but have not seen a response that cited an inability to find the index data or a policy that prevents them from obtaining it from other search criteria. The law on index data is designed to make basic information available to the public without releasing hard copies of vital records. That certificate number is part of the same database used to generate COLBs, so there’s no physical reason they can’t provide the data associated with the number. If it’s Obama’s legitimate certificate number, this would be an easy, legal way for them to confirm Obama’s birth records as legitimate. Refusing indicates the certificate number probably belongs to someone other than Obama.

]]> By: ksdb http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4127 ksdb Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:19:58 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4127 The Fact Check photographs didn't appear until the HI DOH spokesbabe publicly said they couldn't divulge ANY information about the birth certificates. Up until that time, Obama's people were obviously worried that someone could check the authenticity of the COLB by way of that certificate number. As soon as Okubo said they couldn't (which is false), then they felt safe to reveal a certificate number, one that most likely belongs to someone else other than Obama. The Fact Check photographs didn’t appear until the HI DOH spokesbabe publicly said they couldn’t divulge ANY information about the birth certificates. Up until that time, Obama’s people were obviously worried that someone could check the authenticity of the COLB by way of that certificate number. As soon as Okubo said they couldn’t (which is false), then they felt safe to reveal a certificate number, one that most likely belongs to someone else other than Obama.

]]> By: epicurious http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4118 epicurious Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:19:30 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4118 DoH will not release index data based on the certificate number only. The requester must provide a name. The hard copy of the index data available for inspection at the DoH may or may not include the certificate number. This has not been confirmed one way or the other. DoH will not release index data based on the certificate number only. The requester must provide a name. The hard copy of the index data available for inspection at the DoH may or may not include the certificate number. This has not been confirmed one way or the other.

]]> By: yo http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4117 yo Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:20:09 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4117 The fact that the cert number of the colb is blacked out looks a whole lot more suspicious now than it did when factcheck gave their lame excuse as to why it was blacked out. Perhaps they all knew the escape hatch it would give the hawaii doh down the line when people started looking into his birth facts. The fact that the cert number of the colb is blacked out looks a whole lot more suspicious now than it did when factcheck gave their lame excuse as to why it was blacked out.

Perhaps they all knew the escape hatch it would give the hawaii doh down the line when people started looking into his birth facts.

]]> By: ksdb http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4114 ksdb Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:51:57 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4114 Did anyone have an outstanding index data request per the Certificate no. listed on the Fact Check COLB?? That's the one piece of evidence that could prove fraud was committed. The failure, no, refusal to comply with that request is very telling. Did anyone have an outstanding index data request per the Certificate no. listed on the Fact Check COLB?? That’s the one piece of evidence that could prove fraud was committed. The failure, no, refusal to comply with that request is very telling.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4094 Kathy Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:22:54 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4094 John....I'm just thinking out loud....Is it possible for this to be come some sort of class action suit in lieu of Hawaii posting on their website of denial of information? It would be hard for them to deny the public need or right to know if they had a million plaintiffs like the pink slips which were sent to congress. John….I’m just thinking out loud….Is it possible for this to be come some sort of class action suit in lieu of Hawaii posting on their website of denial of information? It would be hard for them to deny the public need or right to know if they had a million plaintiffs like the pink slips which were sent to congress.

]]> By: John Charlton http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4083 John Charlton Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:20:24 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4083 OK, folks, here it is, the legal fund is established... http://www.thepostemail.com/legal-fund/ OK, folks, here it is, the legal fund is established…

http://www.thepostemail.com/legal-fund/

]]> By: yo http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/12/21/hi-department-of-health-refuses-oips-request-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4079 yo Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:02:53 +0000 http://www.thepostemail.com/?p=4687#comment-4079 As I read haw revised statute 338-16, it certainly looks to me like it's saying "filed" means with the Haw doh, and "accepted" would mean with the state registrar. http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0016.htm Also, someone has done another interesting little analysis at http://crisericson2010.blogspot.com/2009/12/military-law-review-questions-for.html As I read haw revised statute 338-16, it certainly looks to me like it’s saying “filed” means with the Haw doh, and “accepted” would mean with the state registrar.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0016.htm

Also, someone has done another interesting little analysis at
http://crisericson2010.blogspot.com/2009/12/military-law-review-questions-for.html

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